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Iraq War: After Operation Lightning
The bombing halt
Iraq War: Al Gore on the war
A Southern Baptist cricitizes Condi-Condi
Iran and Hizbullah
Another strange George Bush press conference
Trying to follow the Israel-Lebanon War
James Bamford on the Iran hawks
Various articles on the Middle East situation
How Lebanon's Siniora sought Britain's help in May 2006 to disarm Hizbullah
And you thought the Cheney administration was reckless in *Iraq* ...
Joschka Fischer on the Israel-Lebanon War, and SPIEGEL mimics some bad habit of the US "press corps"
Israeli attacks on the UN
Questions about the Israeli Defense Force
Israel-Lebanon War: A legend failing?
Gary Hart on Bush-league diplomacy in the Middle East
More articles on the Israel-Lebanon War
Various articles on the Israel-Lebanon War
Skepticism - in both the hard and soft sciences
Israel-Lebanon War: Five Questions
Iraq War: Grim prospects
Israel's dilemma: the air war can't destroy Hizbollah, a land war has major risks
Iraq War: An evaluation by a "stay the course" supporter
An emerging "elite" consensus on Iran and Hizbollah's recent actions?
Air power
William Lind on the Israeli-Lebanese war
A short self-promotion item
Sometimes a sweater is just a sweater
Israeli preparedness
Goals of the Israeli-Lebanese war
Idolatry
Old Right isolationism and the Israeli-Lebanese war
India, Pakistan and the 07/11 attack in Mumbai
Some background on the Israeli-Lebanese war
Middle East: Death machines are rumbling...
Stabs in the back, from Yalta to Baghdad
The problems of tolerance (6): The need for tolerance, its limits and its "repressive" form
The problems of tolerance (5): Herbert Marcuse on repressive tolerance
Israel, the US and the current crisis
Syria's strategy
Against the "toy soldier model" of the Civil War
The problems of tolerance (4): Tolerance, social analysis and radical democracy
Natalie Maines (of the Dixie Chicks)
American authoritarianism
This ain't good, either
Torture in the Bush Gulag:  Is it really ending?
Iraq War: This ain't good
The problems of tolerance (3): Barrington Moore, Jr., on science and tolerance
A prophetess among us
The problems of tolerance (2): Robert Paul Wolff on going "Beyond Tolerance"
Global warming according to Tom Brokaw - and, believe it or not, it's good!
The problems of tolerance (1): Are there problems with tolerance?
What Second World War analogies would the neocons use to justify this?
Iraq War: War crimes
Frenzy on the Right
Maverick McCain gets some flack from the right
Chuckie Watch 119: Chuckie gits worked up
Andrew Jackson blasphemed (in an otherwise good post)
John Tierney and the Confederacy
Iraq War: Victory after victory after victory...
Iran War:  Is Israel shifting its position on war with Iran?
Bush and the Plame leak
The 2006 Republican campaign:  terror, terror, terror
Bob McElvaine on why Mad Annie Coulter hates Jesus and opposes Christianity
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006
4:00:00 PM EDT

Torture in the Bush Gulag:  Is it really ending?


"I wouldn't join the International Criminal Court. It's a body based in The Hague where unaccountable judges and prosecutors can pull our troops or diplomats up for trial.

"And I wouldn't join it. And I understand that in certain capitals around the world that that wasn't a popular move. But it's the right move not to join a foreign court that could -- where our people could be prosecuted." - George W. Bush 09/30/04

"Men without conscience are capable of any cruelty the human mind can imagine." - Dick Cheney 01/26/05

One might think that after Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, even the Bush administration could read the handwriting on the wall.  And that's what you might think reading the first several paragraphs of this story: U.S. Troops Will Benefit From Clarity, Experts Say by Thomas Ricks Washington Post 07/12/06.

But then down starting on paragraph 12, we get this:

The Bush administration says that having to observe the Geneva Conventions in handling detainees is no problem, because the spirit of the conventions' protections has been observed all along. "It is not really a reversal of policy," White House spokesman Tony Snow said yesterday.

The Geneva Conventions require humane treatment, and "Defense Department policy has always been humane treatment," said Army Lt. Col. Mark Ballesteros, a military spokesman.

Indeed, in the short term, there probably will be few changes at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for suspected members of al-Qaeda and their Taliban allies, predicted a senior military lawyer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. That is primarily because some practices that clearly would violate the conventions' ban on "humiliating and degrading treatment," such as putting underwear on detainees' heads, were abandoned long ago, mainly because they were found to be ineffective, the lawyer said.

But, the lawyer added, the lack of definition in the conventions could make the new policy a rich area of litigation for defense lawyers, especially in a cross-cultural environment.  For example, a Muslim prisoner might argue that in his culture being interrogated by a foreign female is an outrage on his personal dignity, and therefore inhumane.  (my emphasis)

In other words, we can't have the slightest confidence that the Bush administration intends to start obeying American and international law when it comes to criminal, sadistic torture.

The Post reporter just typed up the talking points:  oh, we're just talking about putting underwear on prisoners heads, or using females interrogators, and now we're gonna face all this "politcally correct" criticism from lawyers who hate America and love The Terrorists.

For a look at the real-world problems of resorting to torture, see Losing the Moral Compass: Torture and Guerre Revolutionnaire in the Algerian War by Lou Dimarco Parameters (US Army War College) Summer 2006

"The President is always right." - Steve Bradbury, Acting Deputy Attorney General, 07/11/06



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