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Response for CSDA Group
Eric W. King responds to what he believes to be "wafflers" of SDA theology. The following is a response to the offshoot Adventist group known as, "Creation Seventh Day Adventists".
Note: Since this article was written Eric has been contacted on the phone by official members of the "Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church". Eric believes that these people are sincere but are sincerly wrong. He respects their sincerity and their love for Jesus Christ.
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There was a group of defectors from the true Seventh Day Adventist Church which arose in the 80's. What was going on in the 1980's? Well, we won't go there. Anyways, this group claims that the Seventh Day Adventist Church is "babylon".
These "used to be" members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church have not only gone against the Spirit of Prophecy but have boldly spoken against the Word of God on their website! They call God's church "babylon" [term for the satanic "harlot church"].
Here is where we need to understand a simple yet important doctrine of Scripture. The Bible never call's the Church of God "babylon" [symbol of the false church]. The Bible does point out that the "wheat" and the "tares", true "born again" believers will be mixed with "false believers" in God's church up until the second coming of Christ our Lord. But never did Jesus call the church He founded "babylon".
Ellen G. White proclaimed that the Seventh Day Adventist Church was the true Church of Christ. Ellen White has said, "The Seventh-day Adventist Church is NOT Babylon." Many misunderstood Bible teachings were restored beginning with the Protestant movement by Martin Luther [who exposed the "seat" and "authority" of the Anti-christ..the "Roman Beast"].
She agrees with the Bible and further states that the entire world and Satan will have his final conflict with "Seventh Day Adventists", not "creation" or "davidian" Seventh Day Adventist Christians. [see TM, p.37]
Though local churches have their problems because of "Babylonian" influences this does not make Christ's church "babylon". All local Christian churches have their problems...but they are not the "harlot" church. As I said before, I will state again, God's church will have true believers and false believers in it up until the Second Coming of Christ. [Laodicean church: Rev. 3:14-22] But no Christian has the authority or the right or the power to judge in the sense of separating the "wheat" from the "tares". This is the work of Jesus Christ and His angels! [Matthew 24:31]
Jesus informs us that when the "purification" of the Church of God begins, He will send His angels to separate the "wheat" from the "chaff". So those who start "new movements", and claim that there is a "remnant" within the Remnant are liars! Plain and simple!
The true Seventh Day Adventist Church has missionaries all over the world and hospitals healing the sick and hurting. None of these "off-shoot" groups have any Biblical authority or "good fruit doctrine" for their claims or existance. We pray for them.
May God continue to have compassion on the lost and hurting. May those truly seeking God use their Bible only to find the Word of Truth. Amen.
Written by Eric W. King [December 11,2007]
The only way you will ever be able to discern truth from lies is to know the truth. Truth becomes the benchmark by which everything else is measured.
NOTE: Click on "comments" section below to read the debate. Add your own comments also!
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Dear readers of this BLOG,
The offshoot group known as the "Creation Seventh Day Adventists" have stated that their "new" movement is of God and that the true Seventh Day Adventist Church is "babylon".
As you read the responses of the CSDA group please keep the following statement of Ellen G. White in mind;
"Those who have published the Loud Cry tract have not consulted me upon the subject. They have quoted largely from my writings and put their own construction upon them. They claim to have a special message from God to pronounce the Seventh-day Adventist Church Babylon, proclaim her fall, and call the people of God to come out of her, and try to make the Testimonies substantiate their theory. These publications are misleading minds, and increasing the prejudice already existing, and tend to make it more difficult to get access to them to present the message God has given in warnings to the world of altogether a different character from the ideas presented in these pamphlets." RH November 8, 1956
Thanks,
E.W.King -
Dear "Creation Seventh Day Adventists",
I apologize that you are angered by my responses. I do not mean to mis-represent you in any way. People can view your website and send you emails if thay want further information. I have nothing to hide.
I believe that your position that the Seventh Day Adventist church was founded by the Devil is false!
Here is how I responded to one of your current members emails:
"Dear Sir,
The Spirit of Prophecy never mentions the "Creation" SDA church. Perhaps you have a prophet that could inform all of us of your position. Ellen White never saw your existence. Thus, true Christians will not either.
I am not a hater of you or your people. I am simply concerned.
E.W.King
www.adventist.7p.com"
And to this I still hold. Your movement is an "offshoot" of God's true church. I only hope that some of your members realize that before it is too late.
E.W.King -
Dear Lucan Chartier
Thank you for your other personal email to me. Instead of posting the whole email you sent here, I felt that I could take one paragraph from your message that sums up your message. I asked if the CSDA could become "babylon" and you stated:
"The answer is an emphatic "Yes." God is no respecter of persons; He is no respecter of organizations. NO ONE may violate the law of God and be free of the consequence; NO CHURCH may join to the world and remain pure, no matter how high and exalted their claims may be. If anything, their claims to such a high level of truth make their rejection thereof all the greater in the judgment."
Here is were "The Adventist Way of Life" exposses your false teachings! You say that, "No Church" may join the world and remain pure. My biblical response is, Jesus said; "I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hell shall NOT PREVAIL against it." [Matt. 16:18]
But according to the CSDA group man is able to decide what the "church" is and can "jump" from one to the other as he sees fit. Yikes!
The Bible says that Christ has one church. It has problems, yes. But it is not the "harlot" as your group proclaims.
The Seventh Day Adventist Church is the church of Christ according to the "Spirit of Prophecy", not the "Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church".
Man does not decide what the church is. Jesus built His church, it is the true Seventh Day Adventist Church..including the "wheat" and the "tares".
E.W.King -
Dear Lucan Chartier,
Thank you for your response. Here are the plain and simple facts, their is only one church that Christ is coming back for...which church is it?
You claim that the "Creation" SDA church is it. Could you become babylon? Are you ever safe in Christ's church? Must we jump here and their?
You are not a Seventh Day Adventist because you misunderstand the "image of the beast". Only Satan can set up the image of the beast, not Christ's Church.
Here is what saddens me, you and your members have blamed God's Church as the making the image to the Beast. Wow! What a claim and what a very unbiblical claim.
E.W.King
4/22/08 5:59 PM
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