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Cheating. People Do it. Let's talk about it
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Wednesday, December 5, 2007
Subject: Cheating. People Do it. Let's talk about it
Time: 3:34:00 PM EST
Author: lcourtines
Yes. It is a dirty word but something we have to talk about with our games. There has been dramatic little conversation on some of our Poker games with regards to cheating. First off, what is cheating?
Here is the definition on Wikipedia: Cheating:
Cheating is defined as an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others.
HOW PEOPLE CHEAT
In our poker games, cheating is most often associated with people creating more than one screen name and playing against themselves or using using another method of conversation (chat, phone, text) to tell a friend what cards they have. These are things people would do to cheat at our online free poker.
CAN IT BE STOPPED
Unfortunately, we do not have an effective method of stopping people from doing this. Essentially, once poker is being played remotely there really is no way for us to prevent cheating.
In fact, people cheat each other when they are sitting directly across from each other! How the heck can we stop them when they are spread across the web!
WHAT CAN BE DONE?
Well, we have a lot of tools in our game that can ensure you won't be gamed online. Here are couple of things.
1. Set up a private table. From the rooms lobby you can set up a room and play privately. Only you and the people you trust will be in the room with you playing. People can still cheat! But at least they won't be strangers.
2. Tournaments. Playing in tournaments prevents their from being more than one member name. How you ask? Well, people arerandomly placed in a tournament table. It is much more difficult to make sure your fake screen names are in the rooms together.
3. Report people. There is a help button inside of the poker game page and their is an email link on the Poker play page. Please contact our help team with real data. Not, I THINK they are cheating but....real stuff. Hearsay is very difficult to prosecute on.
There may be more. I would love to hear everyones ideas on how we can prevent cheating and what would you do if you were in AOL, Masque's position. It is not easy to stop....BELIEVE ME!
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Subject: Cheating. People Do it. Let's talk about it
Time: 3:34:00 PM EST
Author: lcourtines
Yes. It is a dirty word but something we have to talk about with our games. There has been dramatic little conversation on some of our Poker games with regards to cheating. First off, what is cheating?
Here is the definition on Wikipedia: Cheating:
Cheating is defined as an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others.
HOW PEOPLE CHEAT
In our poker games, cheating is most often associated with people creating more than one screen name and playing against themselves or using using another method of conversation (chat, phone, text) to tell a friend what cards they have. These are things people would do to cheat at our online free poker.
CAN IT BE STOPPED
Unfortunately, we do not have an effective method of stopping people from doing this. Essentially, once poker is being played remotely there really is no way for us to prevent cheating.
In fact, people cheat each other when they are sitting directly across from each other! How the heck can we stop them when they are spread across the web!
WHAT CAN BE DONE?
Well, we have a lot of tools in our game that can ensure you won't be gamed online. Here are couple of things.
1. Set up a private table. From the rooms lobby you can set up a room and play privately. Only you and the people you trust will be in the room with you playing. People can still cheat! But at least they won't be strangers.
2. Tournaments. Playing in tournaments prevents their from being more than one member name. How you ask? Well, people arerandomly placed in a tournament table. It is much more difficult to make sure your fake screen names are in the rooms together.
3. Report people. There is a help button inside of the poker game page and their is an email link on the Poker play page. Please contact our help team with real data. Not, I THINK they are cheating but....real stuff. Hearsay is very difficult to prosecute on.
There may be more. I would love to hear everyones ideas on how we can prevent cheating and what would you do if you were in AOL, Masque's position. It is not easy to stop....BELIEVE ME!
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Why is most of this blog dedicated to informing on people who use cheating programs or run 2 computers, or use telephones to communicate with others playing. Why isn't there much discussion about how AOL and WSOP have rigged these games to the computers advantage. I see comments about duplicate cards, full houses getting beat by lesser hands, winning pots being reduced, etc., all for the computerized players benefit, but AOL and WSOP do nothing to rectify the obvious cheating they have installed in their poker program. These supposed game upgrades they install are only to better the "robots" odds, as you see with pocket pairs, river hits, always a kicker 1 card higher than yours, and the alternating check & raise between the robots. AOL and WSOP should stop advertising these games are for fun and be up front about their intent, and that is to CHEAT everybody, everytime, every game !!!
Sincerely,
Dick Cheney -
mr o u r poor joke
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Confirmed since I last played on the 8th, that AOL and WSOP have rigged their games. They are preset to cheat in the robots favor. Again, one of the robots had 2 ace of clubs in the hole. They not only cheat with the best possible hands, they have duplicated cards for their "boy toys" to win. The hand turns over so quickly, they think it won't be seen, but the robot made a mistake and turned its cards over before the bettting was finished !! It new what it had before the game was done, an automatic winner preset by the strategists at AOL and Wsop. These robots also have been caught betting out of turn, backing up, then checking !! This makes no sense, even for a game designed to cheat for fake chips. Once again AOL proves it is not a good service provider.
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I was playing in a room with the computerized players. I wrote down every hand to see how much AOL and Wsop had these games rigged to cheat. Out of exactly 50 hands, the "robots" had pocket pairs 29 times. In the same 50 hands the robots had 26 full houses, flushes 14 times, and trips 2 times. That's 42 hands where I couldn't even call. The hands I did win were once with a straight, 4 times with 2 pair, and the rest on bluffs. Aol and Wsop are in the market of cheating with a game meant for fun. Their game upgrade is stacked in favor of the robots and limits are preset on what you will get and how much you win. A former gaming programmer for these people has admiited in a blog about the way the robots signal each other to fold or raise (flashes on screen, he said), and he went on to say that these robots are aware of YOUR HOLE CARDS !!! That's why they'll fold when your hand is good. They are playing to bully people with raising because they have nothing to lose. We don't have anything to really lose either, except the enjoyment of poker when it is taken away by a program set against you winning. Aol and Wsop are in this for the pleasure of control and greed. Funny, they're greedy about winning fake chips and not worried about their giving decent service as an Internet provider. Aol and Wsop probably would cheat children of their school lunch money if the opportunity were there.
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