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Wednesday, July 9, 2008
1:11:00 AM EDT
Feeling Scared
Hearing the Iridescent Fish Playlist (to reassure myself that there ARE good male feminists in the world)
(oh, and don't Google images of 'creepy.' You get Michael Jackson faces and dog-humans and very weird hands and babies. Eee.)
During Remainder Time, I attended a feel-good group talk for campus feminists in the basement of the counseling center. Emilia* presided. Now, most of the girls present were friends of mine. There was one girl who I find to be annoying, vapid, and stupid as hell (and she lacks acting talent to boot, but that's a different story), and one girl who I had never met before (but she seemed nice in a Very! Exuberant! and all too happy to suit my Remainder'd self way). And I think it was this new girl who brought up the idea of 'feminist goggles'--ie, if you're a feminist, you're constantly looking at the world in a different way than non-feminists. Which I was certainly doing at the time--fuck, I have a three-four page entry in my paper journal filled with feminist analysis of the actions of Zach*. Of the Patriarchy Hurts Men Too variety.
Anyway, the topic went from there to "well, there are girls who don't see this way" to "if there are so many girls who don't even see this way, how is there any hope to find a guy who sees this way" (yeah, that didn't make me feel so good...at my optimistic points during that time, I was planning to go to England during my final semester, find a musically-gifted Briton who shared my feminist views, marry him, and never come back to the States. Uh-huh. Whatever it takes, right?)
Oh fuck. I forgot I put Skunk Anansie's 'Secretly' on this playlist. Damn it. This song fits something now. Of all the Song People I didn't want to be, it was that one. Urgh.
Back to the topic...
So yes, then someone....Eve*? I can't remember...said something about how the men she knows who call themselves feminists are often quite disappointing.
Which made me wonder what 'male feminists' she knew who I didn't...because our mutual male feminist friends don't disappoint me at all. Karl* rocks. The other main dude who I have yet to aliasify does too. Most dudes I know who have actually gone out on the limb and proclaimed their feminism, while they may not be perfect (and who is, really?) are at least trying. Last week my friend Anthony* called himself a feminist. That rocked. My favorite male feminist would probably be Dr. Eastman* (hence 'Iridescent Fish.') He gets it.
Oh, 'Male Model' is playing now. Yay.
Anyway, this was a statement which left me feeling troubled and uncertain, to say the least. Because if the movement will ever succeed, we need male allies. We need all allies.
What we don't need are lying hypocrite rapists pretending to be our allies.
Which brings me to the point of this somewhat long-winded story.
And that point would be: Kyle Payne.
I don't know what problem my friend had about the male feminists in her world, but surely none of them could've been the vile mess this guy is. I'm sorry, but real feminist men? Any real feminist, for that matter? They don't sexually assault women. They don't use their positions of relative power to hurt women. They don't say one (ostensibly feminist, though I have my issues about it) thing and do another, utterly unfeminist one. They do not look at child pornography.
This freaks me out so badly. Like I said over at Belledame's...before reading what she had to say I expected this guy to have done his bad deeds a few decades ago...to have 'repented' or whatever...to be a hypocrite, but a past versus present hypocrite rather than a present versus present one.
No, he's twenty-two. He's a fellow Midwesterner. Why are there so many people in this part of the country who are so evil?
Oh yeah, they're all over the place. The Midwestern ones are just the ones who scare me the most.
Fuck it, this creep is not my ally.
Written by redwall33 Blog about this entry
1:11:00 AM EDT
Feeling Scared
Hearing the Iridescent Fish Playlist (to reassure myself that there ARE good male feminists in the world)
The creepy, get it away
During Remainder Time, I attended a feel-good group talk for campus feminists in the basement of the counseling center. Emilia* presided. Now, most of the girls present were friends of mine. There was one girl who I find to be annoying, vapid, and stupid as hell (and she lacks acting talent to boot, but that's a different story), and one girl who I had never met before (but she seemed nice in a Very! Exuberant! and all too happy to suit my Remainder'd self way). And I think it was this new girl who brought up the idea of 'feminist goggles'--ie, if you're a feminist, you're constantly looking at the world in a different way than non-feminists. Which I was certainly doing at the time--fuck, I have a three-four page entry in my paper journal filled with feminist analysis of the actions of Zach*. Of the Patriarchy Hurts Men Too variety.
Anyway, the topic went from there to "well, there are girls who don't see this way" to "if there are so many girls who don't even see this way, how is there any hope to find a guy who sees this way" (yeah, that didn't make me feel so good...at my optimistic points during that time, I was planning to go to England during my final semester, find a musically-gifted Briton who shared my feminist views, marry him, and never come back to the States. Uh-huh. Whatever it takes, right?)
Oh fuck. I forgot I put Skunk Anansie's 'Secretly' on this playlist. Damn it. This song fits something now. Of all the Song People I didn't want to be, it was that one. Urgh.
Back to the topic...
So yes, then someone....Eve*? I can't remember...said something about how the men she knows who call themselves feminists are often quite disappointing.
Which made me wonder what 'male feminists' she knew who I didn't...because our mutual male feminist friends don't disappoint me at all. Karl* rocks. The other main dude who I have yet to aliasify does too. Most dudes I know who have actually gone out on the limb and proclaimed their feminism, while they may not be perfect (and who is, really?) are at least trying. Last week my friend Anthony* called himself a feminist. That rocked. My favorite male feminist would probably be Dr. Eastman* (hence 'Iridescent Fish.') He gets it.
Oh, 'Male Model' is playing now. Yay.
Anyway, this was a statement which left me feeling troubled and uncertain, to say the least. Because if the movement will ever succeed, we need male allies. We need all allies.
What we don't need are lying hypocrite rapists pretending to be our allies.
Which brings me to the point of this somewhat long-winded story.
And that point would be: Kyle Payne.
I don't know what problem my friend had about the male feminists in her world, but surely none of them could've been the vile mess this guy is. I'm sorry, but real feminist men? Any real feminist, for that matter? They don't sexually assault women. They don't use their positions of relative power to hurt women. They don't say one (ostensibly feminist, though I have my issues about it) thing and do another, utterly unfeminist one. They do not look at child pornography.
This freaks me out so badly. Like I said over at Belledame's...before reading what she had to say I expected this guy to have done his bad deeds a few decades ago...to have 'repented' or whatever...to be a hypocrite, but a past versus present hypocrite rather than a present versus present one.
No, he's twenty-two. He's a fellow Midwesterner. Why are there so many people in this part of the country who are so evil?
Oh yeah, they're all over the place. The Midwestern ones are just the ones who scare me the most.
Fuck it, this creep is not my ally.
Written by redwall33 Blog about this entry