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Subject: Baptism with the HOLY SPIRIT and with Fire
Time: 11:06:00 AM CDT
Author:  seawater999


Baptism with the HOLY SPIRIT and with Fire

HOW Can I Be BORN AGAIN???

WE ALL PRACTICALLY HAVE JOHN 3:16 MEMORIZED
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

BUT DO YOU KNOW LUKE 3:16
16John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: H
e shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire

LUKE 3:16 you need the baptism of the Holy Spirit!!!!

Acts 19

   1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

   2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

   3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

   4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

[John verilt baptized with the baptism of repentance; that they should believe on Christ Jesus... 
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God;
thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.]

   5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

   6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

if YAHSHUA (Jesus) does not dwell in you, by His Spirit... then you are not inthe faith <<<That is what the Apostle Paul said somewhere in corinthians

you must receive the Holy Spirit!!! (And not only that, but you must OBEY HIM)

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Baptism In the HOLY SPIRIT :
This message reveals the promise, purpose, experience, and evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit: a work subsequent or in addition to salvation that empowers, equips and anoints the believer for ministry and witness.
[lets not get confused; this is a quote from that link]

http://resources.christianity.com/orc/harbourchurch/player2/player.php?action=resize&id=43655&media_type=audio&override_player=winmedia

http://resources.christianity.com/orc/harbourchurch/player2/player.php?action=resize&id=43655&media_type=audio&override_player=real

Click on the linkS to listen to this free audio message from some church in Florida

In that audio message, the guy speaking says that the main purpose of the baptism in the Holy Spirit is for a greater witness. While i think that is (partially) true, the purpose of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is to have eternal life, ie you must be born again, born from above, born of Spirit [baptized in the Holy Spirit] to see the Kingdom of God (ie to be saved)  (John 3; John 17:3 & Eph1:17). I do realize that the guy reads John 20: 22 in conjunction with Acts 1-2. He says that John 20:22 is when the disciples recieved the Holy Spirit, but Acts 2 was when the disciples where first baptized in the Spirit. But, I would say John 20:22 is when they recieved the Holy Spirit, were "born again", "born of Spirit", "born from above" (John 3), but in Acts 2 they recieved a greater infilling and greater measure of power.
Also, I'll mention that I had been baptized in the Holy Spirit before I realized it. I didn't realize I was actually baptized in the Holy Spirit until the first time I spoke in tongues. But anyone who can read the bible with understanding --
revelation-- has been baptized in the Holy Spirit.

"Charismatics" like to say that tongues is the evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit. But I say the evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit is a changed life.

Baptism of Fire

http://www.fireonthealtar.com/voices/Danny%20L/Baptism%20of%20Fire.mp3
OR
http://www.fireonthealtar.com/voices/Danny%20L/Baptism%20of%20Fire.ram

LUKE 3:17
17His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I WOULD RATHER BURN WITH THE FIRE OF GOD IN THIS LIFE (LIKE THE BURNING BUSH MOSES SAW, THAT WASN'T CONSUMED) THAN BURN FOR ETERNITY IN THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BE CONSUMED

LIVING WATER or CONSUMING FIRE?

read 1 Cor 2-3... pay special attention to verses 3:14-15. In chapter 2 Paul talks about the awesome power ofthe Holy Spirit (which is only available after the baptism in the Holy Spirit). At the beginning of chapter 3 Paul rebukes the Corinthians for leaning on their own understanding (instead of acknowledging the Holy Spirit and allowing Him total control of their lives). He continues to say that our foundation in the gospel of Jesus Christ. What we build upon that is determined by us.We will either build using the ways of this world (in our own power) -1 Cor 3:15- or we will build as the Holy Spirit leads us -1 Cor 3:14-...  If you use your own power (though we still need the Baptism in the Holy Spirit [John 3] to be born again) you will be saved, but only as one escaping the flames. If you use the power of the Holy Spirit, all that He has build through you will remain in eternity. Choose NOW.

1 COR 3:14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

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