Subject: Predestination & Freewill can Both Exist?
Time: 7:54:00 PM CDT
Author: seawater999
PREDESTINATION & FREE WILL EXIST TOGETHER
2 Tim 2: 19-21 19the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Make sure your bible is in front of you as you read this. Test everything I say. I believe that the Bible makes it clear that there is such a thing as predestination (Rm 9:11-12). This not only means some people are predestined to heaven (vessles of mercy --righteous souls) and others to hell (vessles of wrath ---reprobate souls--); it also means that our days are ordained by God (Ps 139:16; Prov 20:24). At the same time, I believe, the Bible also makes it clear that we have a free will; for example, the Bible says it is God's will for all men to be saved (1 Tim. 2:3-4 and 2 Pet. 3:9), but not all men will be saved (Mt 25: 31-34, 41, 46).
So, this entry will show that predestination and free will coexsist. And the Bible does NOT contradict itself.
ELECTION
Romans 9:10-14 10Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11Yet, before the twins were bornor had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger." 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." 14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all!
Vessles of: MERCY vs. WRATH
Romans 9: 15-23
15For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[ 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' " 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?
23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
PREDESTINATION
THE SAINTS --GOD's ELECT
1 Pt 1:1 uses the phrase "God's elect, strangers in the world" in the NIV and "strangers scattered throughout [the world]" in the KJV.
Read Jn 17:6, 9, 11, 12, 14-16 for more insight. Click for What is a Saint?
REPROBATE --the DAMNED
John 8: 43 [...] You are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. [...]45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 [...] If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. NIV Click for What is Reprobate?
The Lamb's Book of Life
The bible says that Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. It mentions those "whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev 13:8). And in another place it mention those "whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world" (Rev 17:8); it clearly states that some names are (and some are not) written in the Lamb's book of life from the foundation of the world. "Whosoever was not found written inthe book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Rev 20:15). This is more evidence of predestination.
The steps of a man are ordained of God (Prov 20:24). King David wrote "All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" niv (Ps 139:16). Again, this is even more evidence of predestination. David says that even the very minute details of all his days are preordained (Ps 139).
THE BOOKS
There are books in Heaven. One of these books if the Lamb's book of Life. Those who do not have their name in that book are predestined to go to Hell (Rev 20:15). In other books the details of our lives are written (Ps 139) and so are our works, according to which we will be judged (Rev 20:12). "The books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works".
HOW DOES EVERYTHING WORK OUT?
Philippians 2:12b “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.”
Because God is our creator, we are his "offspring" (Acts 17: 26-28). But at the same time, we are only children of God, if we are born of God (John 3: 1-21), by recieving YAHSHUA (John 1:12-13). Before we believed we all "were by nature the children of wrath" in the KJV or "objects of wrath" in the NIV (Eph 2:3). Nonetheless God's calling and election stand (Rom 9:11). It is God who predestined HIS saints, HIS people, to eternal life; YAH's people are ordained to eternal life (Acts 13:48), the adoption as children by YAHSHUA (Eph 1: 5). It is God who predestined the reprobate damned to condemnation (Jude 1:4) and ordained them to the Lake of Fire (Is 30:33). It is God who soften and hardens our hearts and causes us by HIS grace to do that which is requiredto know HIM.
Jn 6:37-40 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. NIV
FREE WILL
No where in the Bible does it explicitly say that mankind has freewill. HOWEVER, our Bibles tell us that it is God's will that all men be saved.
This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Tim. 2:3-4). The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance (2 Pet. 3:9).
But yet we know that MANY END UP IN HELL FOR ETERNITY. Why? Because they chose not to worship God. Simply put, what is love without risk? What is love if it is not fully and totally voluntary? This is how we know we have freewill!
PRE EXISTANCE
"Come, you who are blessed of my Father, INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOUFROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD." Matt 25: 34
Jer 1: 5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee". This verse tells us that before our bodies are even created in our mother's wombs YAH knows us. The Hebrew word for 'knew' is yada (yaw-dah') means to know intimately and carrys more than thoughts. It means to learn, perceive, discern, and experience. YAH 'knew' and even 'experienced' Jeremiah before the prophet was formed in his mother's womb.
Proverbs 8: 22The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
The following from What Has Been Sealed is Now Revealed. CLICK THAT LINK FOR THE FULL THING.Be not deceived I know who MY sheep are and who are of satan’s seed, also called the goats. My sheep only feed where the Good Shepherd YAHU'SHUA leads them to green pastures. Satan's goats, his seed will eat anything, swallows any false doctrines or lies.
Satans sows his own seed of rebellion and disobedience into the goats defying all that is holy, defying all that is truth, twisting my holy scriptures to conform to man’s twisted perversions, rebutting, rejecting and rewriting my Torah and commands. Satan’s seed is doing the same sins that were in the beginning even before the foundation of the earth when your souls were formed in Heaven.
I YAHVEH, who created your souls knew who would follow, love, obey and to me be loyal. (Jeremiah 1:4-5) I YAHVEH, knew who would follow in rebellion and covet my authority and dominion. (John 17:12)
As satan fought to be god before the foundation of the world, (Isaiah 14:12-15) he has convinced his seed now that they are the manifested sons of GOD, equal to YAHU'SHUA in all ways.
Less anyone forgets only through YAHU'SHUA’S name and shed blood can anyone have access to I YAHVEH. How many have been deceived for they forget I grafted in all those I call holy now. (Romans 11:13-36) For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of I YAHVEH except one his name is YAHU'SHUA. It is only because of 1 John 3: 15-21).
All of the souls who betrayed I YAHVEH in the battle before the foundation of the earth, have and will betray I YAHVEH again! This is how I YAHVEH predestined and foreknew whose names would be found or not found in the LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE. (Rev.17:8)
When the 3 books are opened where will your name be found? Will it be in the book of redemption, the book of the blotted out, (Exodus 32:32-33) (Rev. 3:5) or the book of the damned? Now you can understand MY Holy Scripture that says ‘you all work out your own salvation with fear and trembling’ Phil. 2:12)
Reincarnation is a lie of the father of all lies. You do not die and keep coming back to earth in other lives until you are fitfor Heaven. As theHoly Scriptures say‘man is appointed once to die and than the judgment. (Hebrews 9:27)
Every soul already made that choice before the foundation of the earth was formed. Whether your allegiance was to I YAHVEH or to satan the father of all lies. The first lie satan told was that satan would become like I YAHVEH and have MY authority. 1/3 of all the angels believed this lie along with multitudes of souls who chose sides. For in every soul I have given them the gift of free- will. (Rev. 12:4-9)
As I judged satan whose name was Lucifer, I also judged and condemned and handed out the sentences to not only Lucifer but all his fallen angels and all souls who betrayed I YAHVEH and YAHU'SHUA. The souls that were loyal to I YAHVEH before the foundation of the earth as well as the souls that betrayed I YAHVEH, I send to the earth through the seed of Adam and Eve. Satan was also cast down. Satan again sought to turn my creations against me, both man and beast. Again my Children disobeyed and rebelled against their loving Father.
Satan’s motivation was to provoke I YAHVEH to such a rage I would destroy what I YAHVEH and MY SON YAHU'SHUA so lovingly created, but instead, after the fall of Adam and Eve my own beloved Son YAHU'SHUA offered himself as a redeemer, to be born as a human created only by I YAHVEH supernaturally.
YAHU'SHUA became like a Second Adam with flesh and blood, but as Adam brought sin into the world, MY HOLY BLOOD IN YAHU'SHUA washed the sins away and the desire to sin away from all who accepted MY GIFT I YAHVEH gave at Calvary. Only the souls before the foundation of the earth who were loyal to I YAHVEH and YAHU'SHUA then, will accept, love, obey, fight un-holiness and fight satan and all these abominations now.
The souls that were created before the foundation of the earth who followed Lucifer in rebellion against I YAHVEH and YAHU'SHUA and MY HOST of HOLY ANGELS, (Rev.12:9) were given a choice at that time before the foundation of the earth, but when birthed on earth the choice of those souls were already made. The souls that followed Lucifer then have no choice but to follow satan again on earth and reap what satan sowed. This is the judgment of man!
Salvation was already pre destined. The reprobate shall remain reprobate for eternity. (Jeremiah 6 27-30) clearly states I YAHVEH call them rejected silver, they are as dross or lead, dead weight. The souls that did not worship and serve I YAHVEH beforethe foundation of the earth will have no desire to serve I YAHVEH on earth.
Just as the evil pharaoh although given a chance time and again could not repent and turn from evil because I YAHVEH hardened his heart as his soul betrayed me before the foundation of the earth. (Exodus 7:13) Now you can understand why Jacob I loved and Esau I hated; ( Romans 9:13) (Mal.1:3)
along with Goliath, Ahab, Jezebel, Judas, Ananais and Sapphira (Acts 5: 1-10) just to give examples of who were birthed for destruction.
The decision they made on earth was already done in heaven when the battle of good vs. evil was first fought.
That decision of every soul that is born on earth is birthed in every baby born on earth.
You walk on top of hell and although hell was created for satan and his angels that rebelled against I YAHVEH (Matthew 25:41). I YAHVEH the Creator of your souls already knew if you would join these in hell. (II Peter 2: 2-10) and whether you will make your abode in the lake of fire with satan, the false prophet, and the anti messiah (Rev.19:20) (Rev.21:8) and all of satan's seed who followed satan before the foundation of the earth. Not one soulthat was created from the foundation of the earth whose names are already recorded in Heaven will be lost just as YAHU'SHUA stated in the Holy Scriptures.
Anyone who does not acknowledge YAHU'SHUA as GOD/MESSIAH the only begotten Son of YAHVEHour Father GOD Creator of all, made that decision before the foundation of the earth and their mind and hearts cannot be changed! No matter what religion you claim, only the souls that did not betray MY Son YAHU'SHUA and I YAHVEH before the foundation of the earth will be saved from hell and the lake of fire! All others are reprobate and shall share in the same fate or are already in hell. NOW IS THE TIME OF SALVATION!
As you read this there is an anointing unlike any I YAHVEH have given anyone thus far. Read this aloud and the scales will fall from your eyes, spiritually your deaf ears will be opened. You will no longer be able to have a form of Godliness with no Godliness within, deceiving others, if you hear I YAHVEH and believe this prophetic message. The decision you made before you were born on earth will be manifested before all. This is a warning to all good and evil.
The souls who were in the battle before the foundation of the earth who started to fight on the side of Holiness against Lucifer and his 1/3 of angels and than allowed Lucifer’s lies to penetrate their souls and they too betrayed I YAHVEH. (Rev.13-8)
They now pay the price for their names are written in the book of the blotted out! Traitors first in Heaven and now on Earth! These people start out following I YAHVEH and YAHU'SHUA believing the bible, obeying MY Commands, MY Torah and than forsaking all that is Holy. These souls were formed and put into a human body and are doomed to reap satans reward of hell and the lake of fire.
Everyone reading this now, hear this, I YAHVEH command you to share this with all the people you know, to reassure them, not one person whose name is written in the LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE will worship the beast or accept the mark of the Beast! ( Rev.13: 15-17)
Not one person will I YAHVEH lose to satan and his kingdom! Not any who were loyal to I YAHVEH and MY Son YAHU'SHUA in that great battle before the foundation of the Earth will go to hell or the lake of fire!
Just as I YAHVEH sent MY SON YAHU'SHUA to save my beloved Children from the sin brought on by Adam and Eve, I YAHVEH will once again send my Beloved Son YAHU'SHUA to save my loyal holy Children. LOOK UP CHILDREN! Though the world scoffs and mocks truly YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIEGH! (Luke 21:28)
Beloved ones, this world is not your home! You are just travelers passing through. Your mansions, treasures, and rewards await you in Heaven. Store up not, earthly treasures that you cannot take with you, but store them in Heaven, let your storehouses be full in Heaven! (Matthew 6 19-20) (Malachi 3:8-12)
So Children, as you see this world consumed by I YAHVEH a GOD That is a consuming Fire, (Hebrews 12:29). Know this, it is the living water, (John 4:10) the NAME and the BLOOD of YAHU'SHUA that will protect you from the fire of MY WRATH! Know this Children, it is only the NAME and the BLOOD OF YAHU'SHUA that hides you and only if you are worshipping and serving YAHU'SHUA and strive to obey. I am YAHVEH and I will not be mocked!
California, Phoenix Arizona, Montana, Canada and all over the world you have felt the heat of MY wrath one way or another! Why do you not put your Creator and Savior first in your life and love? Why do you love your homes morethan the Creator that gave you your homes land wealth and possessions? Do you not realize how not only did the fires come but how many lives I spared because of MY mercy and love? This is only a sample of what is to come before the great tribulation! Get your priorities straight now before it is too late! (Deut.9:3)
Now this world and people are experiencing labor pains. The earth travails in pain as the ground quakes and shakes before I YAHVEH birth the great tribulation that will be unlike any horror yet seen! (Matthew 24) (Mark 13:8)
Not one soul before the foundation of the world who defended I YAHVEH then, will I forsake. MY GREAT WRATH IS FOR MY ENEMIES! As it was then, so it shall be again!
*excerpt from http://www.amightywind.com/prophecy/proph71.htm
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"If you want to know if your loved one's or your spouse's name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, let themview this picture. The anointing in it will show. Even those not yet saved will not say a word against that picture. For they will discern their desire for Heaven if their Name is found in the Lamb's Book of Life, although they haven't even yet made that decision. It means they will. For those that HATE that picture, then their name is not found in the Lamb's Book of Life. My Son Yahshua weeping will not even begin to touch them."
from http://www.amightywind.com/marriagelamb/urgent.htm
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