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Biggest shift in gay culture since Stonewall

Scott Olin Schmidt

Friday, May 16, 2008

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sfgate_get_fprefs();Thursday, the California Supreme Court decided that, on equal protection grounds, the state cannot discriminate on gender when it comes to marriage. That's a great victory for equality.

While opponents will decry the changes such a decision will have on the institution of marriage, few have pondered what such a decision will mean for gay and lesbian culture.

I think we'll see two changes, one's a fad - gays are good at that - the other, a true shift in gay culture.

Between May 15 and Nov. 3, it will be possible for anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, to get married in California. This summer, gays and lesbians will be coming to California to gain legal recognition of their relationships just as they did on Valentine's weekend 2004 when San Francisco issued same-sex marriage licenses. And like that romantic weekend getaway, they had better make plans fast--

5/18/2008
If "to the pure all things are pure" and "all things are lawful unto me," and if, under this Law of grace and Love, extramarital sex and all of these other things are lawful, then where do things like sodomy fit in? If you are truly pure and loving, you wouldn't do such things, because they're definitely not good for you physically or spiritually, and they're hurtful. Just because "all things are lawful" unto us doesn't mean that we can go around murdering or killing or torturing people OR GIVING THEM AIDS! That's not love!

Ted Rudow III,MA

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Daniel Weintraub: Justice's dissent was about pace, not issue

By Daniel Weintraub - dweintraub@sacbee.com Sunday, May 18, 2008 Same-sex marriage supporters, from left, Erica Esquibel, Jade Baranski, Tracy Neiswender and Alex Underwood, listen to speakers praise the California Supreme Court decision Thursday at the Sacramento Gay and Lesbian Center. Carl Costas / ccostas@sacbee.com Click on photo to enlarge
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Carol Corrigan is like a lot of Californians. She thinks same-sex couples deserve the same rights as heterosexual partners who marry, and she supports the domestic-partner laws that gave gays most of those rights. If she were asked to vote on the issue of gay marriage on the ballot, Corrigan says, she would probably choose to legalize it. But she did not think it was the place of the California Supreme Court to fast-forward the political process.Corrigan's conflicting viewsmay reflect the emerging mainstream in California right now. But Corrigan is not simply any Californian. She is a justice on the state Supreme Court, its newest member. She was in the minority in the court's 4-3 ruling last week striking down the state's prohibition on same-sex marriage.If that ruling stands and is one day viewed as the historic turning point in the campaign for gay rights, not only in California but across the nation, Corrigan's dissenting opinion will be little noted by history
But if Californians vote in November to restore the ban on gay marriage with a constitutional amendment overturning the court's controversial ruling, then the advocates for gay marriage who are celebrating today might well look back at Corrigan's views as prescient."We are in the midst of a major social change," Corrigan wrote in her dissent. "-----------

About the writer:
Call The Bee's Daniel Weintraub, (916) 321-1914. Readers can see his California Insider political blog at CapitolAlert.com.

Kai and Kelly Hsu, from San Fransisco, celebrate with the crowd in the City Hall rotunda in San Fransisco for a rally after the gay marriage ruling came down from the California Supreme Court. Bryan Patrick / bpatrick@sacbee.com Click on photo to enlarge

Supreme Court Justice Carol Corrigan Click on photo to enlarge

That's not love!

If "to the pure all things are pure" and "all things are lawful unto me," and if, under this Law of grace and Love, extramarital sex and all of these other things are lawful, then where do things like sodomy fit in? If you are truly pure and loving, you wouldn't do such things, because they're definitely not good for you physically or spiritually, and they're hurtful. Just because "all things are lawful" unto us doesn't mean that we can go around murdering or killing or torturing people OR GIVING THEM AIDS! That's not love! Ted Rudow III,MA

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